Episodes

Monday May 22, 2023
Inter-MISSION: It: Chapter One
Monday May 22, 2023
Monday May 22, 2023
It's Inter-MISSION time! Drew and Rafe follow up their lengthy conversation about It: Chapter One with things they might have missed the first time around. They dive into listener feedback, give their answers for Podcast Homework, and chat about Crowd-Funded projects that have caught their eyes recently. Finally, they reveal the movie they'll be talking about for our next episode, which is Rafe's last pick as the Kids on Bikes season starts to draw to a close.
Things we talked about in this episode:
- Riley Silverman on D&D Beyond: Leaning into Poor Dice Rolls for Great Storytelling
- Badge Quest
- Eat the Reich (Rowan Rook & Decard)
- Everyday Heroes: Skull Island & Pacific Rim “Cinematic Adventure Paths”
Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This

Monday May 01, 2023
10. It: Chapter One (2017)
Monday May 01, 2023
Monday May 01, 2023
Buckle up, folks, because there's a lot to talk about with this month's selection, It: Chapter One, making for one of our longest episodes to date. Not only do Drew and Rafe talk about this 2017 film, but they also go into the 1990 miniseries, the original novel, and even a couple of references to the 2019 follow up, so be warned: spoilers abound! After an in-depth discussion about the film and our latest Kids on Bikes Draft picks, Drew brings a slew of ideas on how to adapt the game for a terrifying game experience.
Hopefully you'll find some content in here for use at your own gaming table. If so, please let us know! You can interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This
This month's independent podcast promo is for Bring Your Own Mech: A Lancer RPG Actual Play Podcast.

Monday Apr 17, 2023
Inter-MISSION: Stand By Me
Monday Apr 17, 2023
Monday Apr 17, 2023
It's Inter-MISSION time! Drew and Rafe follow up their conversation about Stand By Me with ideas they might have missed the first time around. They dive into listener feedback, which includes the birth of a new segment for the future: Podcast Homework. For this month's Podcast Homework, they reveal the movies that make their definitive list discussed in the last episode. They chat about Crowd-Funded projects that have caught their eyes recently or, in the case of Mythic Games, have been causing some serious problems in the gaming community. Finally, they reveal the movie they'll be talking about for our next episode (and it's an exciting one!).
Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This

Monday Apr 03, 2023
9. Stand By Me (1986)
Monday Apr 03, 2023
Monday Apr 03, 2023
It's Rafe's turn to have a nostalgia pick with this month's selection, Stand By Me. Despite Rafe's skepticism about whether this would make a good pick or not (including an early apology), Rafe and Drew really dig in and find quite a bit to like, both about the movie and about gaming ideas that can come from the film, thus proving not every "nostalgia pick" has to be a bad selection for use at the gaming table.
There's a lot of talk on here about storytelling and we'd love to know what storytelling systems you like beyond the ones Drew mentions. How do you like Rafe and Drew's different approaches to a storytelling subsystem? Let us know by interacting with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This
This month's independent podcast promo is for Monster Hour.

Monday Feb 13, 2023
Inter-MISSION: The Quest aka Frog Dreaming
Monday Feb 13, 2023
Monday Feb 13, 2023
It's Inter-MISSION time! Drew and Rafe follow up their conversation about The Quest (aka Frog Dreaming) with ideas they might have missed the first time around, including their usual forgetfulness regarding the score and several other sources of information Drew found regarding the film and fan community. They dive into listener feedback, including the birth of a new game mechanic inspired by a listener and The Quest. Finally, they chat about Crowd-Funded projects that have caught their eyes recently and reveal the movie they'll be talking about for our next episode.
Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Twitter and on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This

Monday Jan 23, 2023
8. The Quest aka Frog Dreaming (1986)
Monday Jan 23, 2023
Monday Jan 23, 2023
After watching BMX Bandits and talking with filmmaker Brian Trenchard-Smith, it only makes sense to look at his other "kids on bikes" movie, The Quest (aka Frog Dreaming, aka Go Kids!). While this is a movie Drew grew up loving, we weren't exactly sure it fit into our current theme, but this was too good an opportunity to discuss it to pass by. Is it a "kids on bikes" movie? How do you deal with a protagonist that needs no real help? And how do you look past some of the movie's more problematic elements? We talk about all of that and more with our deep dive into The Quest.
What approach would you use to run a Frog Dreaming inspired session? How would you deal with an overpoweed protagonist like Cody? Let us know what inspiration this film has given you. Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This
This month's independent podcast promo is for the Weird Distractions podcast

Monday Jan 09, 2023
Inter-MISSION: BMX Bandits
Monday Jan 09, 2023
Monday Jan 09, 2023
It's Inter-MISSION time! Drew and Rafe (finally) follow up their conversation about BMX Bandits with ideas they might have missed the first time around, mostly involving how talking with filmmaker Brian Trenchard-Smith impacted their appreciation of the film. They discuss the highly successful Kids on Bikes Second Edition Kickstarter, which they participated in both as playtesters and as backers. Then, they use the 2nd edition information to trope the new characters they've picked in the draft. Finally, they chat about Kickstarters that have come and gone in the time that the show was on break, discuss the future goals for the podcast (which you can chime in on) and reveal the movie they'll be talking about for our next episode.
Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Twitter and on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This

Monday Dec 26, 2022
Special: Never Say Die! interviews Brian Trenchard-Smith
Monday Dec 26, 2022
Monday Dec 26, 2022
We've been gone for a while but we're making our way back into the Kids on Bikes spotlight, returning with a long overdue interview with Brian Trenchard-Smith, the director of our most recent movie (BMX Bandits) and another Kids on Bikes film we're sure to discuss, The Quest (aka Frog Dreaming). We talk with Mr. Trenchard-Smith about the making of both of those films, his book Adventures in the B Movie Trade, his non-Kids on Bikes movies, B-movies in general, and a whole lot more.
We'll be back in two weeks with our proper BMX Bandits Intermission, where we'll also discuss the future plans for the show and the incredibly successful Kickstarter campaign for Kids on Bikes 2nd Edition. As usual, you can Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Twitter and on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This

Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
7. BMX Bandits (1983)
Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
Sorry for the delay in between episodes, but we're back with what is probably our most divisive movie to date: BMX Bandits. One of us likes the movie and one of us is a Grumpy Sour McGrumpy-pants about it. Who is on what side? Make sure you listen to find out! We talk about the movie, the strange debut of Nicole Kidman, and other BMX/skateboarding flicks of the era.
What approach would you use to run a BMX Bandits inspired session? What kinds of locations would you let your group terrorize? What kind of McGuffin ideas can you come up with? Let us know what inspiration this film has given you. Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Twitter and on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This
Check out past-guest Doug Levandowski's latest Kickstarter project: Calls To Action: Extraordinary Party Backgrounds for 5e
This month's independent podcast promo is for the Killer Fun Crime and Entertainment podcast

Tuesday May 24, 2022
Inter-MISSION: The Kid Who Would Be King
Tuesday May 24, 2022
Tuesday May 24, 2022
It's Inter-MISSION time! Drew and Rafe follow up their conversation about The Kid Who Would Be King with ideas they might have missed the first time around, which isn't much this time. They trope the new characters they've picked in the draft, respond to listener feedback, and chat about what is catching interest on Kickstarter and other online vendors. Finally, they reveal the movie they'll be talking about for our next episode.
Links to things we talk about this episode:
- Crucible of Realms: Episode 28 - Tide Shift (featuring Drew)
- Screen Drafts: Richard Donner episode
- The Conqueror Challenges: Lord of the Rings
- Fanthropy Virtual Races
- Brindlewood Bay RPG (Kickstarter)
- Desperation RPG (GameFound)
- Blade Runner RPG (Kickstarter)
- Everyday Heroes RPG (Kickstarter)
- DIE: The Roleplaying Game (Kickstarter)
Interact with the show on Instagram and Twitter or email us at theneversaydiepodcast@gmail.com.
Find Drew on Twitter and on Doctor Who: Who & Company
Find Rafe on Twitter and on Have Not Seen This